Science Mike, or Mike McHargue (findinggodinthewaves.com, asksciencemike.com), is the bestselling author of the book, Finding God in the Waves, host of Ask Science Mike, and co-host of The Liturgists podcast. This conversation took place a week after the election. He hits that sweet spot between science and religion. Listen to how he weaves together his fundamentalist Christian upbringing and what he now calls mystical empiricism. If you don’t have time now to listen to everything, feel free to skip ahead to 22:42 where the meditation begins and then come back later to the conversation.